Thanks for coming to our page. We know that you came for a reason and that it is probably about your relationship. Our lives have been about helping people like you look at your relationship and try to figure out not only how to save it or even how to make it better, but how to make it extraordinary. You see, we have been working on that very ourselves for more than 40 years. We actually became a couple while trying to learn about couples. We are clinical psychologists who met years ago in one of the leading national programs that trains couples therapists. Imagine, we met and became a couple while working on helping couples.

We got excited about couples we were working with and learned a lot about how to be in an exceptional relationship for a long time ourselves. Since that time many years ago, we have worked with hundreds of people in relationships, written books and articles, done research, and trained numerous  of other therapists. We hope what we have learned will be of help to you in particular. What we know is simple but not easy. Use us and this site in whatever way it is most helpful,  that is out greatest wish for you. There IS more available to you in your relationship than you ever thought possible, and we would like to help you find that!